Rape in the bible….


This is copied from a website that I found and have verified the quotes below.  I am not an Atheist…I am a Pagan following the Celtic path of the Great Mother Goddess.  I do acknowledge that Yahweh is A God but he is not MY God.  I refuse to worship a deity that is jealous, vengeful and condones…nay…encourages rape.

I know that this post will not win me any friends in the Christian community.  I am not here to make friends.  I am here to offer support to others who have been through the things I have been through.  If I offend any of my readers with this post, I am very sorry for that.  If you feel that you may be offended by what I have posted here, please do not read it.  If you have comments and would like to have a discussion about it, I would be more than happy to discuss this with you.

Here is the link to the website.  There are other horrors in the bible examined there.  I copied only the part about rape: http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm

Rape In The Bible

Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible. So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don’t want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to “taking a wife”. Don’t be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to “take” these wives.

1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT) So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan. The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.” Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?

2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT) They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho. Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14) As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?

4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.

5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB) If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

It is clear that God doesn’t give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans “property”.

6) David’s Punishment – Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God’s “Forgiveness” (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB) Thus says the Lord: ‘I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.’ Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan answered David: “The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.”

[The child dies seven days later.] This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!

7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB) “When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive’s garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.”

Once again God approves of forcible rape.

8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB) They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera’s spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)

9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB) Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

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About wtfhappenedtomyreallife

I am a wife, mother, daughter, sister, cousin, granddaughter, neice, friend, confidant and I am ready to speak my mind.

Posted on September 2, 2011, in Rape, sexual assault, Uncategorized and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 9 Comments.

  1. I concur. I used the same verses in a facebook note and it sparked major debate….There were women DEFENDING their god’s word about women being “taken” by the same men who killed thier parents. I guarantee not one one of those women was happy about being in a forced marraige with an enemy. Yet, people will say “it’s god’s plan”. I could never worship someone who would do such a thing.

    • Yeah I am not very popular at the family reunions with my preacher uncle and my devoutly hypocritical family elders. Though I have not actively denied my switch in religion they have all chosen to ignore the “Goddess Worshipper” sticker on my car and the tattoo on my forearm that is written in Theban. There are none so blind as those who will not see, right?

  2. If I were to treat the symbols, texts, and traditions of Paganism as superficially as you are treating these texts, you’d have complete rights to skewer me.

    Not everything in the bible is something commanded by God even if it is commanded by fellow human beings, even when those humans are kings, judges, and leaders. Simply because something happened and is recorded in the bible does not mean it is meant to be. Sometimes the Bible simply recording the memory of what happened. Later generations are left to figure out how history and story fits into their notions of God and ethics.

    Some have done so with mercy and kindness. And some have done so with stupidity.

    Secondly, all texts come with a community of interpretation. Often the work of interpretation is to fill in back stories or context that make the stories fit more clearly with the communities core beliefs about right and wrong.

    Thirdly, one has to consider cultural context in understanding what counts as right and wrong, as well as literary structure.

    Take for example, the passage in Deuteronomy quoted above. In traditional Jewish legal analysis, legal principles are derived by comparing and contrasting the judgements in different scenarios or cases. That passage in Deuteronomy comes from a collection of four cases with varying kinds of consent. In the traditional analysis of those four cases, the one you cite is not a case of rape, but a case where a man has consensual sex with a woman to whom he has not contractually obligated himself. (she is not betrothed).

    Normally, a man was not allowed to have sex with a woman unless he first guaranteed her economic security by betrothal. By jumping the gun he showed bad faith. Therefore not only was he bound to a default contract, but he could never back out of that contract through divorce.

    That same body of interpretation also acknowledged that this was an obligation on the _man_ but not the woman. If the woman did not wish to marry the man, then she was not only free to refuse, but would receive the same monetary compensation that was due to her had she in fact married and been divorced. Essentially that was enough money to set herself up in business as a shepherdess to support herself.

    The case that the tradition actually considered rape, i.e. non-consent by a woman, is the one where the woman cries out in the field and there was none to help. Crying out was not meant literally as the only proof of non-consent. it was just an example of a way non-consent could be proven.

    In the case of non-consent, the bible is startling advanced. The penalty is death for the man and the woman is declared entirely innocent. The reason for such a severe penalty is that forced intercourse without consent is considered equivalent to murder. (That is actually in the bible – Deut 22::26).

    Further when tradition interpreted the actual case of rape, the victims’ betrothed state also was understood to mean that rape could happen within marriage. A man was not allowed to force sex even on his own wife.

    Lest you be tempted to say, ah well, ok that is Judaism, but what about Christianity. I think if you took the time to study the matter you’d find a much more complex picture in Christianity as well. There are certainly plenty of victim blamers, but there are also people like Augustine of Hippo who argued very forcefully in the City of God that even psychological coercion counted as rape. A woman cannot lose her chastity or virginity except through a psychologically and morally free sober choice. Any sort of coercion – physical, psychological, or spiritual turns “sex” into rape. His is the “orthodox” Roman Catholic position, though you’d never know it looking at some of the behavior in the Roman Catholic church.

    This is not to rationalize or justify any passage, nor any community’s failings. If anything it would judge the failings of certain communities by their own internal standard and call them to account.

    I just felt the need to point out that intellectual and spiritual honesty requires that we take the time to dig a bit to understand before leaping to conclusions and making moral judgements about faith communities other than our own.

    • You do bring up some valid points, however I do take acception to the fact that you assume I have not read the bible being as I am pagan. If you have points you would like to bring up to me in the Ancient Celtic faith to which I prescribe, go ahead and do so. But know that I was raised in the Christian faith and it was my study of that faith that made it necessary for me as a survivor to move to a diffeferent faith system.

      You can try to justify the above in any way you would like. It does not change that the accounts that I have sited above are from a website that I found and sited. It does not change the fact that I do agree with a majority of the claims. Oh wait….you did not acknowledge that I had sited a website that I had found and that I had stated my own opinions above the work that was sited from that site.

      Before you begin casting dispersions as to my research and what I know and do not know, would it not be better to ask me what I thought or where I got my information first? Thank you for assuming that because I do not follow that belief system that I must be an idiot.

  3. — I do take acception to the fact that you assume I have not read the bible being as I am pagan. —

    Whoa! What did I say that sounded like I thought you hadn’t read the bible or that your being a Pagan had anything to do with anything?

    My critique was with the _way_ you or that site was reading the bible .

    I do not believe any text can be understood apart from its readers. Words do not have meaning on their own. They are given meaning by our experiences, our history, our desire to connect and communicate with others.

    Even when we agree on the meanings of the words themselves, a complex text has so many details and layers of meaning that we can read and reread it and never see it all. Further all texts have gaps and we fill in the parts left to our imagination in different ways. Thus Christian read Isaiah and see a prophesy of Jesus. Jews read Isaiah and see a celebration of King Hezekiah’s reign as well as a future messianic age that has not yet been fulfilled. Higher biblical criticism sees three authors instead of one and devotes itself to comparing and contrasting the viewpoints of those authors. And if we cart Isiah over to the lit department will get yet another entirely different set of readings.

    It is impossible to read any text, be it Dante, Shakespeare, or the Bible without taking account of its readers.

    The presentation given by you and that site was devoid of any mention of readers, not even themselves. There was no discussion of interpretative traditions, literary criticism or even of the possibility of such. Hence I felt the need to comment.

    — If you have points you would like to bring up to me in the Ancient Celtic faith to which I prescribe —

    As the post was about the bible and my comment was focused on interpretative traditions, I chose to give examples from two communities that used the bible as a basis for their ethics and on two mainstream interpretations within those traditions.

    In any case, I am not competent to talk about what Ancient Celtic art, ritual, runes or text has to say about rape so it would have been foolish for me even to try. I am however interested and if you know of reliable sources or have written articles yourself, I’d be glad to read them.

    My own feeling, as a fellow rape survivor, is that the more we highlight the parts of _every_ religious tradition that scream “No!” to rape, the closer we get to uprooting the social forces that feed rape culture.

    We’re never going to win at the “this religion is bad, that religion is good” game because no religion is perfect. I know other survivors like you who chose paganism over Christianity because it fit with better with their experience as a survivor. I also know people who actively chose Christianity or Judaism or Buddhism or Native American/First Nation religions etc, etc because it fit with _their_ commitments as a survivor.

    Best,
    beth

  4. We can go round and round but I am sure you are right that neither one of us would ever win the “This religion is best, this other religion is wrong” fight. I do not profess to be fighting that fight either. I am merely pointing out specific examples that I found that show rape being in the bible and seemingly being condoned. I have yet to come across anything in any Ancient Celtic writings that condones rape of male or female. The Celtic path is one of woman’s strength and is traditionally led by women. I am actually an ordained Celtic High Priestess.

    I do not wish to fight with anyone. I put this post out there as a reference that I had found of specific examples. I am glad that as a fellow survivor you have found what works best for you and that you are willing to stand up for your beliefs, as I believe anyone of faith should be willing to fight for their beliefs if it comes down to it.

    I have been very sick this weekend with bronchitis and so it is possible that while in the throws of illness and cough medicine I had misread your comment and taken it too personally. If this is the case I apologize for that. I know that when I am sick I tend to be whiny and feel like everything bad said is a personal attack. This is a fault of mine.

    Love and light to you Beth,

    Lucky

  5. I hope you feel better soon! That sounds awful.

    Indeed there was absolutely not one bit of personal attack intended.

    My personal beliefs are that all religions have truth, or at least the part that promotes justice and compassion has truth. People should chose their faith based on what most empowers them to be actors and not just observers in the process of creating a just world. We each respond to different stories and symbols so I doubt that there could ever be one religion on psychological grounds alone. The religion that “works” for one person sometimes does not work for another. And as you found – the religion we’re born into isn’t always the religion where we belong either.

    Blessings in whatever meaning you understand the word,
    beth

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